Marty and Karla Grant

!NOTES:I (Marty Grant) don't know how or if I'm related to John W. Baker, but he could easily be related to my ancestor Jacob Baker (1760/65) who also lived in Ashe County.

John W. Baker was born ca 1782/83 (per 1850 census) somewhere in Virginia (per 1850 census). I don't know what his "W" middle initial stands for.

I don't know who John's parents were. Since he was not born in Ashe County he may not be closely related to the other Ashe County Bakers, though her certainly could be related anyway since Ashe County borders Virginia.

John Baker would have probably been home with his parents for the 1790 census. Unfortunately the 1790 census is lost for Virginia.

He would probably have been home with his parents for the 1800 census, but that census is also lost for Virginia. It is possible that he was already in Ashe by then, but I have no way to know that for sure. If he was there (in Ashe) he would have been about 17 years old, so should be listed in the 16-25 age group (born ca 1784/90). Jonathan Baker (1775/80) had an extra male that age with him. Thomas Baker (1760/65) had an apparent son that age in 1800.

John Baker married someone before ca 1810, possibly in Ashe County (no marriage record found). I don't know his wife's name, but she was born ca 1775/94 (per 1830 census).

John may have been listed on the 1810 census in Ashe County, but the census taker only used initials that year, and there are three men named "J. Baker" listed. One of them is possibly John Baker. I've picked one that roughly matches his 1820 census entry, and although this might not be him, it fits fairly well. The problem with this entry is that there were several other men that could be this "J. Baker" instead: James Baker (1775/80), Jonathan Baker (1775/80), and Jacob Baker (1760/65). The "J. Baker" I picked was next door to "L. Fouts" (Leonard Fouts) who was my Uncle, and who's brother Jacob Fouts married Jacob Baker's daughter. This may mean that I've chosen the wrong "J" to be John.

!CENSUS:1810 Ashe Co, NC pg 7 J. Baker 21010-11101-0-0
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 26-44 (1765-1784) John W. BAKER (1782/83)
1 Male(s) 10-15 (1794-1800) Elijah BAKER (1794/1800)
2 Male(s) 0-9 (1800-1810) Son?
Son?
1 Female(s) 45 & up (before 1765) Mother? Mother-in-law? (Bef 1765)
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1784-1794) Wife?
1 Female(s) 10-15 (1794-1800) Daughter?
1 Female(s) 0-9 (1800-1810) Daughter?

John Baker was listed on the 1815 Ashe County Tax list in Captain Weaver's District. He was taxed for 500 acres on Grassy Creek (which is where Morris Baker lived).

John Baker was listed on the 1820 census in Ashe Co, NC. He was next door to Elijah Baker, his son.

!CENSUS:1820 Ashe Co, NC pg 20 John Baker 310010-21010
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 26-44 (1775-1794) John W. BAKER (1783/84)
1 Male(s) 10-15 (1804-1810) Son? (1804/10) –> gone by 1830
3 Male(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Son? (1810/15)
Son? (1810/15)
Son? (1810/15)
1 Female(s) 26-44 (1775-1794) Wife? (1775/94) –> gone by 1830
1 Female(s) 10-15 (1804-1810) Daughter? (1804/10) –> gone by 1830
2 Female(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Daughter? (1810/15)
Daughter? (1815/20)


Mrs. Baker died in the 1820's, presumably in Ashe County.

On 3 Apr 1830, John W. Baker obtained a marriage bond in neighboring Wilkes County to marry Keziah Cearley, daughter of Clement Cearley. Keziah was born ca 1790/1800 (per 1830 and 1840 census).

John Baker was still in Ashe Co, NC for the 1830 census. He had an older woman living with him born ca 1740/50. This could be his widowed mother or mother-in-law. They were listed not too far from Jonathan Baker (1775/80), relationship unknown.

!CENSUS:1830 Ashe Co, NC pg 14 John Baker 0103001000000-0011010000100
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 40-49 (1780-1790) John W. BAKER (1782/83)
3 Male(s) 15-19 (1810-1815) Son? (1810/15)
Son? (1810/15)
Son? (1810/15)
1 Male(s) 5-9 (1820-1825) Son?
1 Female(s) 80-89 (1740-1750) Mother? Mother-in-law? (1740/50) * Not in 1820
1 Female(s) 30-39 (1790-1800) Keziah CEARLEY (1790/1800) wife, m 1830
1 Female(s) 15-19 (1810-1815) Daughter? (1810/15)
1 Female(s) 10-14 (1815-1820) Daughter? (1815/20)


John was still in Ashe for the 1840 census. He was just a few houses from Harrison Baker (1816).

!CENSUS:1840 Ashe Co, NC pg 28 John Baker Sr 0001100100000-1002001000000
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 50-59 (1780-1790) John W. BAKER (1782/83)
1 Male(s) 20-29 (1810-1820) Son? (1810/15)
1 Male(s) 15-19 (1820-1825) Son? (1820/25)
1 Female(s) 40-49 (1790-1800) Keziah CEARLEY Baker (1790/1800) wife
2 Female(s) 15-19 (1820-1825) Daughter? (1820/25) * Not in 1830
Daughter? (1820/25) * Not in 1830
1 Female(s) 0-4 (1835-1840) Daughter? (1835/40)

John was still in Ashe for the 1850 census.

!CENSUS:1850 Ashe Co., NC pg 296 # 849/849
John Baker, 67 Farmer $2500 VA
Keziah 45 NC
Jacob McGrady 18 Laborer;

On 21 Jul 1855 John Baker made his Will in Ashe County. He named his wife "Kisiah", the heirs of "Eli J. Baker" (presumably his son), son John C. Baker, daughters Elizabeth Duvall, Sarah Greer and Eveline Smith. Executor William B. Smith. The Will was witnessed by Phillip Perkins and James H. Senter. The Will was proven in Court in August 1855, so John had died by that time. (Ashe County, North Carolina Will Book A page 105).

!CENSUS:1800;

!CENSUS:1810 Ashe Co, NC pg 7 w/J. BAKER age 16-25 (1784/94);

!CENSUS:1820 Ashe Co, NC pg 20 w/John BAKER age 26-44 (1775/94);

!NAMED:21 Jul 1855 Ashe Co, NC Wills A-105 John BAKER pr Aug 1855. Wife Kisiah, heirs of Eli J. BAKER, son John C. BAKER, daughter Elizabeth DUVALL, Sarah GREER, Eveline SMITH. Executor: William B. SMITH. Witness: Phillip PERKINS, James H. SENTER;

!NOTES:Elijah Baker was born ca 1794/1800 (per census analysis). I don't know where he was born, though possibly in what is now Ashe County, North Carolina (which was part of Wilkes County until 1799).

Elijah Baker is a proven son of John Baker (1783) and his first wife (name unknown) as named in John's 1855 Will. It is possible that the Elijah named in his Will was a different, younger man than this Elijah, but I don't think so. This is the only Elijah I have any records on in that area. He seems a little old to be John's son, but his (or John's) age could be off slightly from what I currently show.

Elijah Baker would probably have been home with his parents for the 1800 census and listed in the "under 10" age group (born ca 1790/1800), however, I have yet to locate his father John W. Baker in 1800. He was not listed in Ashe County that year.

Elijah would probably have been home with his parents in 1810 probably in the age 10-15 age group (born ca 1794/1800). John Baker did have an apparent son that age in 1810.

Elijah Baker was listed on the 1815 Ashe County Tax list next to his father in Captain Weaver's District. He was taxed for 50 acres on Beaver Dam Branch. (This list is online at Jeff Weaver's New River Notes)

Elijah Baker married someone between 1810 and 1820, presumably in Ashe County (no marriage record found). I don't know his wife's name, but she was born ca 1794/1804 per the 1820 census.

Elijah Baker was listed on the 1820 census in Ashe Co, NC. There were quite a few Baker families in Ashe County, NC. Unfortunately, the 1820 Ashe County census was alphabetical, so we can't determine where anyone lived, nor who their neighbors were.

!CENSUS:1820 Ashe Co, NC pg 20 Elijah Baker 310100-20100
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 16-25 (1794-1804) Elijah BAKER (1794/1800) s/o John W. Baker
1 Male(s) 10-15 (1804-1810) Brother? Brother-in-law? (1804/10)
3 Male(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Son?
Son?
Son?
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1794-1804) Wife? (1794/1804)
2 Female(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Daughter?
Daughter?


I was unable to find Elijah Baker on the 1830 census. He may have died in the 1820's or moved away. He was certainly dead by 1855 when his father made his Will in Ashe County, for he left something to the "heirs" of his son Elijah, which certainly suggests he was dead by then. There were no apparent widows listed in Ashe on the 1830 census. If Elijah had died, his widow and children must be living with other relatives in 1830. There was an Elijah Baker in neighboring Grayson Co, VA in 1830, but that was an older man (the son of Andrew Baker I suspect).

!NOTES:John C. Baker was named in John Baker's Will (1855). I have not yet found any additional data on this John. John (Sr) had several unknown sons in several age groups, any one of which could be John C. Baker. More research is needed.

!NOTES:
Unknown Son (1804/10). John W. Baker had an apparent son this age. He was home in 1820, aged 10-15 (born ca 1804/10), but gone by 1830, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been, though it may be John C. Baker named in his father's 1855 Will.

Unknown Daughter (1804/10). John W. Baker had an apparent daughter this age. She was home in 1820, aged 10-15 (born ca 1804/10), but gone by 1830, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been. This could be Elizabeth or Sarah Baker named in their father's 1855 Will.

Unknown Son (1810/15). John W. Baker had an apparent son this age. He was home in 1820, aged "under 10" (born ca 1810/20), and home in 1830, age 15-19 (born ca 1810/15), but gone by 1840, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Son (1810/15). John W. Baker had an apparent son this age. He was home in 1820, aged "under 10" (born ca 1810/20), and home in 1830, age 15-19 (born ca 1810/15), but gone by 1840, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Son (1810/15). John W. Baker had an apparent son this age. He was home in 1820, aged "under 10" (born ca 1810/20), and home in 1830, age 15-19 (born ca 1810/15), and still home in 1840, aged 20-29 (born ca 1810/20), but gone by 1850, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Daughter (1810/15). John W. Baker had an apparent daughter this age. She was home in 1820, aged "under 10" (born ca 1810/20), and home in 1830, age 15-19 (born ca 1810/15), but gone by 1840, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Son (1820/25). John W. Baker had an apparent son this age. He was home in 1830, aged 5-9 (born ca 1820/25), and home in 1840, age 15-19 (born ca 1820/25), but gone by 1850, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Daughter (1820/25). John W. Baker had an apparent daughter this age. She was not home in 1830, but she was home in 1840, age 15-19 (born ca 1820/25), but gone by 1850, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.

Unknown Daughter (1820/25). John W. Baker had an apparent daughter this age. She was not home in 1830, but she was home in 1840, age 15-19 (born ca 1820/25), but gone by 1850, so possibly married or dead by then.

I don't know who this child might have been.