Peter G. Stroud (1807) and Lucinda Carter of Burke, McDowell and Macon Co, NC and Rabun, Union and Towns Co, GA

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I (Marty Grant) am a 4th Great Grand Nephew of Peter G. Stroud by blood and also a 4th Great Grand Nephew of Lucinda Carter by blood.

Peter Stroud was born 4 Aug 1807 (per tombstone) in Burke (now McDowell) Co, NC. I've been told his full name was "Peter Grayson Stroud", but I've seen no record showing him with a middle name or initial. I'm fairly sure he is the same Peter referred to by relatives as "Big Peter Stroud" to distinguish him from his cousin "Little" Peter E. Stroud (c1813).

Peter is a son of Peter Stroud and Margaret Curtis. This is proven by an 1835 deed where Peter sold part of his inheritance. There is some question though whether it was this same Peter or some other one (Peter E. Stroud for example). I think the circumstantial evidence and census analysis show that it has to be this Peter G. Stroud.  Unfortunately "Peter Stroud" signed the 1835 deed with a mark, and from this record alone it can't be determined whether Peter G. Stroud (1807) was the one or Peter E. Stroud (c1813) was the one. Both were over 21 in 1835. William Stroud (brother of Peter-1765/70) had a proven son  named Peter also. Based on census analysis and the list of William's heirs as given in a court record, it becomes very clear to me which Peter was which. Peter (1807, "Big Peter") is son of Peter and Margaret, while Peter E. (1813, "Little Peter") is son of William and Delilah. This is the only way it works.

Further proof is found in that the children of James A. Stroud and William A. Stroud lived with and / or very near Peter G. Stroud in later years in Towns Co, GA. James and William are also sons of Peter and Margaret.

Peter was apparently home with his parents in 1810 (age "under 10", born ca 1800/10) and still home in 1820 (age 10-15, born ca 1804/10), and still home in 1830 (age 20-29, born ca 1800/10).

There is a "Peter Stroud Jr" listed on the 1830 census in Burke County just a few houses from several members of this family (James Stroud, Joseph Garrett and James Mashburn). This Peter is age 20-29 (born 1800/10) and living alone, so unmarried. It does say "Jr", so I'm reasonably sure it is Peter E. Stroud instead of Peter G. Stroud.

"B. Peter Stroud" was one of the purchasers at the 27 Nov 1834 Estate sale of his father's estate.

On 23 Feb 1835, "Peter Stroud" of Burke County sold two tracts of land to Gardner Stearns and James Stroud (his brother) for $160. The land was described as being on Muddy Creek, one of 275 acres, the other of 90 acres, all formerly belonging to Peter Stroud, deceased. Witnesses were Thomas Green and John H. Morrison. Peter signed with a mark. (McDowell Co, NC Deed Book 3 page 41).

This seems to be the time (1835) that Peter left Muddy Creek and moved west to Macon County, North Carolina and joined his sister Susannah Stroud Tanner and her family. I base this on the fact that "Peter Stroud" was listed as a voter in Macon County for the 1835 Congressional Elections. He voted in Franklin Precinct as voter # 308 and his brother-in-law John Tanner was # 311. This would seem to indicate that they were at the polls at the very same time. My belief (just a theory) is that Peter was probably living with the Tanners at that time.

"Big Peter Stroud" was mentioned in the 1837 letter from James and Rebecca (Stroud) Mashburn (his sister) to John and Delilah (Bright) Stroud, but his name was the last part of the letter to survive, so whatever was said of him in the letter is lost.

Very shortly after this, Peter Stroud moved down to Rabun County, Georgia (borders Macon Co, NC) and there on 20 Sep 1838 he married Lucinda Carter. They were married by Robert Woods. Lucinda's family lived in Rabun. She was born 24 Apr 1816 in Buncombe Co, NC, daughter of Jesse Carter and Lavina Sams (also my ancestors).

It would appear that they returned to North Carolina about this same time, though I don't know if to Macon County or all the way back to Muddy Creek in Burke County. Wherever they lived, it didn't last long, for they were back in Georgia by May 1840. They lived somewhere on "Lower Hiwassee" which was (at that time) the border between Union and Rabun County. Later it all became Towns County.

I have not been able to locate Peter Stroud on the 1840 census. Their son James was born in May 1840 in Georgia, but they were not found on the 1840 census in Rabun or Union County, Georgia. They did not seem to be living with any of their known siblings that year. I have had trouble locating several of Lucinda's siblings in 1840 also, so perhaps their section of Rabun County was missed by the census taker in 1840.

They were in neighboring Union County, Georgia for the 1850 census. They were next door to James Tanner (brother of John Tanner, Peter's brother-in-law), and just three houses from brother-in-law Josiah Carter (1807). William Stroud (c1833) and Priscilla Stroud (1800) were living with them. I am reasonably sure that Priscilla is the widow of Peter's brother William A. Stroud, and that William (1833) is their son.

1850 census abstract: (Explanation of this census)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1850 UNION CO, GA Page 281   House/Family # 1096/1096  - 85TH DISTRICT Twp

STROUD PETER          40 M W FARMER                 700 NC                   1809/1810
STROUD LUCINDA        35 F W                            NC                   1814/1815
STROUD MARY           12 F W                            GA                   1837/1838
STROUD JAMES          10 M W                            GA                   1839/1840
STROUD LAVINA          8 F W                            GA                   1841/1842
STROUD NANCY           5 F W                            GA                   1844/1845
STROUD LUCINDA         2 F W                            GA                   1847/1848
STROUD WILLIAM        17 M W                            NC                   1832/1833
STROUD PRISCILLA      50 F W                            NC                   1799/1800

They lived in the eastern part of Union County, which in 1856 was cut off to form Towns County.

Peter and family were listed on the 1860 census in Towns County, Georgia. They were still next door to James Tanner.  Alfred Tanner age 21 was living with them, listed as a "Hireling" (Hired farm laborer).  This is his nephew, son of James A. Stroud and Deborah England.

1860 census abstract: (Explanation of this census)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1860 TOWNS CO, GA Page 165   House/Family #  345/ 345 --  Twp   P.O.

STROUD PETER          53 M W FARMER            2000   800 NC                   1806/1807
STROUD LUCINDA        44 F W                              NC                   1815/1816
STROUD JAMES          20 M W                              NC                   1839/1840
STROUD LAVINA         17 F W                              GA                   1842/1843
STROUD NANCY          15 F W                              GA                   1844/1845
STROUD LUCINDA        12 F W                              GA                   1847/1848
STROUD MARGARET       10 F W                              GA                   1849/1850
STROUD NAOMI           6 F W                              GA                   1853/1854
STROUD WILLIAM         2 M W                              GA                   1857/1858
STROUD ALFRED         21 M W HIRELING                     GA                   1838/1839

They were still in Towns County for the 1870 census. Numerous other Strouds were nearby, including several of their now married children. They were next door to James Stroud (nephew, son of James A. Stroud), and son James W. Stroud was two houses away, and John O. Stroud (nephew, son of William A. Stroud) was just a few houses away.

1870 census abstract: (Explanation of this census)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1870 TOWNS CO, GA Page 195B  House/Family #  125/ 127-- Twp

STROUD PETER          63 M W FARMER                 700   700 NC              1806/1807
STROUD LUCINDA        54 F W KEEPING HOUSE                    NC              1815/1816
STROUD SARAH M        16 F W AT SCHOOL                        GA              1853/1854
STROUD WILLIAM E R    12 M W AT SCHOOL                        GA              1857/1858

Peter G. Stroud died on 19 Sep 1872 per his tombstone. He is buried at the Carter Cemetery in Towns County, Georgia.

Widow Lucinda was listed on the 1880 census in Towns County, Georgia in Lower Hiwassee Township. She was living with daughter Sarah Naomi Stroud Scroggs and family.

1880 census abstract: (Explanation of this census)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1880 TOWNS CO, GA Page 484   House/Family #    22/  22 -- LOWER HIWASSEE Twp

SCROGGS GEORGE       W M  25 HD M SEWING MACHINE AST   NC  NC  NC  1854/1855
SCROGGS MANTY        W F  25 WF M                      GA  NC  GA  1854/1855
SCROGGS FRANK        W M   2 S  S                      GA  NC  GA  1877/1878
STROUD LUCINDA       W F  58 ML W                      GA  NC  NC  1821/1822

Lucinda was still in Towns County for the 1900 census, this time living with son William Stroud.

1900 census abstract: (Explanation of this census)
(Note: The birth dates given in 1900 were part of the original census record)
1900 TOWNS CO, GA Page  House/Family #   41/  42--833 DISTRICT G M Twp

STROUD WILLIAM R               HD W M FEB 1858  42 M 18       GA  NC  NC
STROUD MARY                    WF W F APR 1868  37 M 18 10  9 GA  NC  GA
STROUD BLANCHE                 D  W F JUN 1882  17 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD PAUL                    S  W M MAY 1883  16 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD ADDIE P                 D  W F DEC 1885  14 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD ETHEL M                 D  W F FEB 1885  14 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD CARRIE M                D  W F SEP 1890   9 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD BONNIE R                S  W M JAN 1891   9 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD ERNEST E                S  W M DEC 1893   6 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD EFFA E                  D  W F AUG 1895   4 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD ELLEN B                 D  W F APR 1897   3 S          GA  GA  GA
STROUD MILDRED                 D  W F JUL 1899   0 S          GA  GA  GA  10/12
STROUD LOUCINDA                MO W F APR 1816  84 W     8  8 NC  NC  NC

Lucinda Carter Stroud died on 6 Apr 1904 in Towns County, and is buried at the Carter Cemetery.


Children

Peter and Lucinda had 8 children. I don't have a lot of additional data on them.


Researcher List

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Register Report


1. Peter Grayson1 Stroud , born 4 Aug 1807 in Burke Co, NC (now McDowell Co, NC); died 19 Sep 1872 in Towns Co, GA; buried in Carter Cem, Towns Co, GA, son of Peter Stroud  and Margaret Curtis .  He married on 20 Sep 1838 in Rabun Co, GA Lucinda Carter , born 24 Apr 1816 in Buncombe Co, NC; died 6 Apr 1904 in Towns Co, GA; buried in Carter Cem, Towns Co, GA, daughter of Jesse Carter  and Lavina Sams .

 

      Children of Peter Grayson Stroud and Lucinda Carter were as follows:

+    2          i      Mary Matilda2 Stroud , born 29 Apr 1838 in Macon Co, NC.  She married William Park Reese .

+    3          ii      James Wiley2 Stroud , born 4 May 1840 in Union Co, GA; died 23 Oct 1921 in Towns Co, GA.  He married (1) Margaret A England ; (2) Sarah Nicholson .

      4          iii      Lavina Catherine2 Stroud , born 27 Nov 1842 in Union Co, GA.  She married aft 1860 in Towns Co, GA Newton Burrell , son of Walter Burrell .

+    5          iv      Nancy Phenia2 Stroud , born 25 Apr 1845 in Union Co, GA; died 15 Feb 1921.  She married Andrew D Russell .

      6          v      Lucinda Adaline2 Stroud , born 15 Mar 1848 in Union Co, GA; died 1905.  She married on 18 Jul 1867 in Towns Co, GA Jesse Polk Osborn , born 1847/48 in NC, son of James Osborn  and Ann (---) .

+    7          vi      Margaret A M2 Stroud , born 8 Dec 1850 in Union Co, GA; died 18 May 1934.  She married Bartley P Kelly .

+    8          vii      Sarah Naomi2 Stroud , born 29 Mar 1854 in Union Co, GA.  She married George Scroggs .

+    9          viii      William Edward Reese2 Stroud , born 19 Feb 1858 in Towns Co, GA; died 23 Apr 1919 in Towns Co, GA.  He married Mary Glover .

 

Generation 2

 

2. Mary Matilda2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 29 Apr 1838 in Macon Co, NC.  She married on 4 Dec 1856 in Union Co, GA William Park Reese , born 5 Dec 1835; died 24 Nov 1922.

 

      Children of Mary Matilda Stroud and William Park Reese were as follows:

      10         i      J Dugan3 Reese , born 1857/58 in Towns Co, GA.

      11         ii      Wiley A3 Reese , born 1859/60 in Towns Co, GA.

      12         iii      Lou3 Reese , born 1861/62 in Towns Co, GA.

      13         iv      Harry3 Reese , born 1866/67 in Towns Co, GA.

      14         v      Edgar3 Reese , born 1868/69 in Towns Co, GA.

      15         vi      Lolly3 Reese , born 1870/71 in Towns Co, GA.

      16         vii      Lemar3 Reese , born 1872/73 in Towns Co, GA.

      17         viii      Fanny3 Reese , born 1874/75 in Towns Co, GA.

      18         ix      Louisa3 Reese , born 1876/77 in Towns Co, GA.

 

 

3. James Wiley2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 4 May 1840 in Union Co, GA; died 23 Oct 1921 in Towns Co, GA.  He married (1) on 7 Jan 1862 in Towns Co, GA Margaret A England , born 1840/41 in GA; died 1880/1900 in Towns Co, GA; (2) on 12 Sep 1899 in Towns Co, GA Sarah Nicholson , born 1856/57 in Towns Co, GA.

 

      Children of James Wiley Stroud and Margaret A England were as follows:

      19         i      Wiley Andrew3 Stroud , born 1863/64 in Towns Co, GA.

      20         ii      Ellen3 Stroud , born 1865/66 in Towns Co, GA.

      21         iii      Julia3 Stroud , born 1867/68 in Towns Co, GA.

+    22         iv      Peter Martin3 Stroud , born 19 Jul 1869 in Towns Co, GA; died 10 Mar 1946 in Union Co, GA; buried in Ebenezer Cem, Union Co, GA.  He married Ada L (---) .

+    23         v      William Harvey3 Stroud , born 28 Mar 1871 in Towns Co, GA; died 22 Apr 1957 in Union Co, GA; buried in Blair (New) Cem, Union Co, GA.  He married Nancy Lou Swanson .

      24         vi      Mary3 Stroud , born 1873/74 in Towns Co, GA.

      25         vii      James C3 Stroud , born 1875/76 in Towns Co, GA.

      26         viii      Martha3 Stroud , born 1877/78 in Towns Co, GA.

 

 

5. Nancy Phenia2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 25 Apr 1845 in Union Co, GA; died 15 Feb 1921.  She married on 21 Nov 1865 in Towns Co, GA Andrew D Russell , born 1841/42 in Union Co, GA, son of John Russell  and Nancy (---) .

 

      Children of Nancy Phenia Stroud and Andrew D Russell were as follows:

      27         i      Ollie3 Russell , born 1866/67 in Towns Co, GA.

      28         ii      Ella3 Russell , born 1868/69 in Towns Co, GA.

      29         iii      Lou3 Russell , born 1870/71 in Towns Co, GA.

      30         iv      Esther3 Russell , born 1872/73 in Towns Co, GA.

      31         v      Margaret3 Russell , born 1874/75 in Towns Co, GA.

 

 

7. Margaret A M2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 8 Dec 1850 in Union Co, GA; died 18 May 1934.  She married on 12 Mar 1868 in Towns Co, GA Bartley P Kelly , born 1840/41 in Union Co, GA, son of J L Kelly  and Margaret (---) .

 

      Children of Margaret A M Stroud and Bartley P Kelly were as follows:

      32         i      Mary3 Kelly , born 1868/69 in Towns Co, GA.

      33         ii      Adeline3 Kelly , born 1871/72 in Towns Co, GA.

      34         iii      Margaret3 Kelly , born 1872/73 in Towns Co, GA.

      35         iv      George3 Kelly , born 1875/76 in Towns Co, GA.

      36         v      Lester3 Kelly , born 1877/78 in Towns Co, GA.

      37         vi      Nichols3 Kelly , born 1878/79 in Towns Co, GA.

 

 

8. Sarah Naomi2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 29 Mar 1854 in Union Co, GA.  She married on 2 Nov 1876 in Towns Co, GA George Scroggs , born 1854/55 in NC.

 

      Children of Sarah Naomi Stroud and George Scroggs were as follows:

      38         i      Frank3 Scroggs , born 1877/78 in Towns Co, GA.

 

 

9. William Edward Reese2 Stroud  (Peter Grayson1), born 19 Feb 1858 in Towns Co, GA; died 23 Apr 1919 in Towns Co, GA.  He married on 8 Sep 1881 in Towns Co, GA Mary Glover , born 1862/63 in GA.

 

      Children of William Edward Reese Stroud and Mary Glover were as follows:

      39         i      Blanche3 Stroud , born 1882/83 in Towns Co, GA.

      40         ii      Paul3 Stroud , born 1883/84 in Towns Co, GA.

      41         iii      Addie P3 Stroud , born 1885/86 in Towns Co, GA.

      42         iv      Ethel M3 Stroud , born 1888/89 in Towns Co, GA.

      43         v      Carrie M3 Stroud , born 1890/91 in Towns Co, GA.

      44         vi      Bonnie R3 Stroud , born 1890/91 in Towns Co, GA.

      45         vii      Ernest E3 Stroud , born 1893/94 in Towns Co, GA.

      46         viii      Effa E3 Stroud , born 1895/96 in Towns Co, GA.

      47         ix      Ellen B3 Stroud , born 1896/97 in Towns Co, GA.

      48         x      Mildred3 Stroud , born 1899 in Towns Co, GA.


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