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I (Marty Grant) don't know how or if I'm related to the William P. Turner family. I am very interested in him though.
Special thanks to Bill Hatchell and Lois Silva for information shared on this family.
William P. Turner was born ca 1806/07 in what is now Florence Co, SC, but was then still part of Marion District, I think he lived in what is now McMillan Township, somewhere on or near Lynches Creek, probably near Effingham, SC. At least that is where he lived later in life. Bill Hatchell has "Pleasant" for William's middle name. Lois Silva thinks it is "Presly". I've not seen any primary evidence one way or the other.
According to Bill Hatchell, William P. Turner is a son of William Turner and Elizabeth of Williamsburg Dist, SC. I'm not sure what the primary evidence of this is, but it does seem to be correct. William (Sr) lived across Lynches Creek in Williamsburg Dist, SC, while William P. lived over in the Marion side of the creek, so they weren't really that far apart.
William P. Turner married Mary P. Carter circa 1830/32 in Marion Dist, SC. She was a daughter of George Carter of Williamsburg. She was named in George's Will (1855) as daughter "Mary Turner" and son-in-law "William Turner". (Thanks to Lois Silva for this data on the Carter family).
William Turner was listed on the 1840 census in Marion Dist, SC. He was on the same page with some other Turner families who were know to also live near Effingham, including: Elias Turner and Isham Turner, both formerly of Darlington Dist, SC, sons of Elias Turner Sr. These could easily be cousins of William P. Turner, though I don't know how they are related for sure. An elderly lady (born 1770/80) was with William's family in the 1840 census. That could be his mother or Mary's mother, or someone else.
1840 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census)
1840 Marion District, SC pg 159 William Turner 2000010000000-0201010010000 Analysis: 1 Male(s) 30-39 (1800-1810) William P. TURNER (1806/07) s/o William & Elizabeth 2 Male(s) 0-4 (1835-1840) John Nelson TURNER (1835) son William Elijah TURNER (1837/38) son 1 Female(s) 60-69 (1770-1780) Mother? Mother-in-law? (1770/80) 1 Female(s) 30-39 (1800-1810) Mary CARTER Turner (1806/07) wife 1 Female(s) 15-19 (1820-1825) Daughter? (1820/25) --> gone by 1850 2 Female(s) 5-9 (1830-1835) Mary Marinda TURNER (1831/32) daughter Daughter? (1830/35) --> gone by 1850
William Turner and family were listed on the 1850 census in Marion District, SC. He was just nine houses from Reuben and Catherine Cox Turner, who are probably related to him somehow. Based on his neighbors, I'm sure this was McMillan Township, somewhere near Effingham.
1850 MARION DIST, SC Page 34 House/Family # 506/ 509 TURNER WILLIAM P 43 M W FARMER 400 MARION 1806/1807 TURNER MARY 43 F W MARION 1806/1807 TURNER MARINDA 18 F W MARION 1831/1832 TURNER JOHN 15 M W FARMER MARION 1834/1835 TURNER ELIJAH 12 M W MARION 1837/1838 TURNER FRANCES 9 F W MARION 1840/1841 TURNER ANN 7 F W MARION 1842/1843 TURNER BRODSON 4 M W MARION 1845/1846
William and family were still in Marion District for the 1860 census. This census taker only got the names by initial, but we can still see that it is William's family. He was still in the Effingham area (McMillan Township).
1860 MARION DIST, SC Page 35 House/Family # 526/ 526 -- MARION Twp TURNER W P 52 M W FARMER 1000 300 SC 1807/1808 TURNER M P 52 F W SC 1807/1808 TURNER W E 22 M W FARM LABOR SC 1837/1838 TURNER M C 16 F W SC 1843/1844 TURNER B H 14 M W SC 1845/1846 TURNER S A 9 F W SC 1850/1851
William and family were still in Marion for the 1870 census, and listed in McMillan Township.
1870 MARION CO, SC Page 217 House/Family # 292/ 296--McMILLAN'S Twp TURNER WILLIAM P 63 M W FARMER 255 422 SC 1806/1807 TURNER MARY 64 F W KEEPING HOUSE SC 1805/1806 TURNER NANCY 19 F W AT HOME SC 1850/1851 TURNER SARAH C 17 F W AT HOME SC 1852/1853
Mary Carter Turner died ca 1871 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence County). (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for the date).
William Turner was listed on the 1880 census still in McMillan Township.
1880 MARION CO, SC Page 240 House/Family # 24/ 24 -- McMILLAN Twp TURNER WILLIAM W M 73 W FARMER SC SC SC 1806/1807 TURNER NANCY W F 36 D S SC SC SC 1843/1844 TURNER LAFAYETTE W M 10 GS S SC SC SC 1869/1870
William P. Turner died in 1886 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence). (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for the date).
Both William and Mary are buried at the Old Lebanon Cemetery, Effingham, SC. (Thanks to Lois Silva for this info).
In 1888, McMillan Township and other parts of Marion and neighboring counties were cut off to form the new County of Florence. This family was then in Florence County from 1888 on.
William P. Turner and Mary Carter's children are proven by the 1850 through 1880 census records. Also I owe much thanks to Bill Hatchell for information on these children, including various birth and death dates, and the names (and maiden names) of spouses, as well as descendant information.
Unknown Daughter born ca 1820/25 (per the 1840) census. Since William didn't appear on the 1830 census, this child seems to predate his marriage, so could be a niece or some other relative instead. Either that or he was married before I thought, but was just missing from the 1830 census. This child was gone from William's home by 1850, so probably married before 1850 or died.
Unknown Daughter born ca 1830/35 (per the 1840) census. This child was gone from William's home by 1850, so probably married before 1850 or died young.
Mary Marinda Turner was born ca 1831/32 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). She was home with her parents in the 1850 census. She married John Whitfield Hutchins prior to 1860. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for the name of Mary's husband, and her full name).
John Nelson Turner was born 19 Jun 1835 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). He was home with his parents in the 1850 census. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for his full name and birth date).
John N. Turner married Margaret Julia Hewitt between 1850 and 1860 in Marion Dist, SC. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for her maiden name).
John and family were listed on the 1860 census in Marion Dist, SC. This census taker only got the names by initial, but we can still see that it is William's family. He was still in the Effingham area (McMillan Township).
1860 MARION CO, SC Page 55B House/Family # 871/ 866 -- MARION Twp TURNER JOHN 23 M W FARMER 200 SC 1836/1837 TURNER M 20 F W SC 1839/1840
I didn't find evidence of Civil War Service for John N. Turner, but there was a "J. Turner" listed in Company E, 23rd Regiment, who could easily be him, though it would be difficult to be sure. (A History of Marion County, South Carolina by W.W. Sellers, page 613).
John N. Turner and family were still in Marion Co, SC for the 1870 census, but by this time they were in Cain Township (borders McMillan).
1870 MARION CO, SC Page 16 House/Family # 67/ 67--CAIN'S Twp TURNER J N 35 M W FARMER 100 150 SC 1834/1835 TURNER MARGARET J 24 F W KEEPING HOUSE SC 1845/1846 TURNER JULIAN 8 M W SC 1861/1862 TURNER JAMES 3 M W SC 1866/1867 TURNER JOHN 2 M W SC 1867/1868 TURNER ELI 1 M W SC 1868/1869
By 1880 John and family were back in McMillan Township in close proximity to the rest of his family.
1880 MARION CO, SC Page 240B House/Family # 38/ 38 -- McMILLAN Twp TURNER JOHN W M 44 M FARMER SC SC SC 1835/1836 TURNER JULIA W F 33 WF M SC SC SC 1846/1847 TURNER ANGONETTA W F 14 D S SC SC SC 1865/1866 TURNER PRESLEY W M 11 S S SC SC SC 1868/1869 TURNER WARREN W M 10 S S SC SC SC 1869/1870 TURNER WALTER W M 8 S S SC SC SC 1871/1872 TURNER EMMA W F 7 D S SC SC SC 1872/1873 TURNER EVA W F 2 D S SC SC SC 1877/1878
In 1888, McMillan Township and other parts of Marion and neighboring counties were cut off to form the new County of Florence. This family was then in Florence County from 1888 on.
Thanks to Bill Hatchell for much of the data I have on John N. Turner's descendants. Bill shows that John N. Turner was also married to Elizabeth Jane Elmore at some point, but I'm not sure if she was a 1st wife or a 2nd wife.
William Elijah Turner was born ca 1837/38 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). He was home with his parents for the 1850 and 1860 census.
I didn't find evidence of Civil War Service for William Elijah Turner, but there was a "E. Turner" and a "W. Turner" listed in Company E, 23rd Regiment, one of whom could easily be him, though it would be difficult to be sure. (A History of Marion County, South Carolina by W.W. Sellers, page 613).
William married Emily A. Munn sometime after 1860. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for her name).
I didn't find any trace of William after the 1860 census. There was a William Turner and wife Mary in Reaves Township in 1870. He was born ca 1839/40, so that is close in age, but not in location, or spouses name, so I don't think it is him.
Frances Turner was born 22 Jan 1841 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). She was home with her parents in the 1850 census. She married Robert M. Turner before 1859 in Marion Dist, SC. He was probably a cousin, he was a son of Isham Turner and Martha Cusack. I didn't find them in 1860, though the index shows a "P.M. Turner" in Williamsburg Dist, SC. I'll have to check that out and see if it is really "R.M. Turner", and if so, could be this couple.
By 1870 they were in Marion Co, SC, in McMillan Township. They were listed next door to George W. Turner, a son of Reuben Turner.
1870 MARION CO, SC Page 217B House/Family # 299/ 303--McMILLAN'S Twp TURNER ROBERT M 37 M W FARMER 600 396 SC 1832/1833 TURNER FRANCIS 30 F W KEEPING HOUSE SC 1839/1840 TURNER ELIZABETH 11 F W AT HOME SC 1858/1859 TURNER ISHAM P 9 M W SC 1860/1861 TURNER ROBERT R 7 M W SC 1862/1863 TURNER EMMA 2 F W SC 1867/1868
Robert and Frances were still in McMillan Township for the 1880 census. This time they were next door to Peter Oram Turner, Robert's brother.
1880 MARION CO, SC Page 240 House/Family # 28/ 28 -- McMILLAN Twp TURNER ROBERT W M 47 M FARMER SC SC SC 1832/1833 TURNER FRANCIS W F 35 WF M SC SC SC 1844/1845 TURNER RALSTON W M 13 S S SC SC SC 1866/1867 TURNER EMMA W F 10 D S SC SC SC 1869/1870 TURNER FANNIE W F 6 D S SC SC SC 1873/1874 TURNER LESTER W M 4 S S SC SC SC 1875/1876 TURNER HESTER W F 1 D S SC SC SC 1878/1879
In 1888, McMillan Township and other parts of Marion and neighboring counties were cut off to form the new County of Florence. This family was then in Florence County from 1888 on.
Thanks to Bill Hatchell for much of the data I have on Robert and Frances Turner's descendants Also thanks to Terry Britt for some data shared on this family.
Ann Turner was born ca 1842/43 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). She was home with her parents in 1850, but gone by 1860. She probably married or died before that time.
Margaret C. Turner was born ca 1843/44 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). She was home with her parents in 1850, but gone by 1860. She probably married or died before that time.
Brodsun Hartwell Turner was born 27 Mar 1847 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for his full name and birth date).
Brodsun was home with his parents for the 1850 and 1860 census. He married Mary Melvina Hatchell before 1869 in Marion Co, SC. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for Mary's maiden name).
Brodsun was a little too young for Civil War service, and no record was found showing he served.
Brodsun and family were listed on the 1870 census in Marion Co, SC, in McMillan Township just two houses from his parents. A John P. Hatchell, age 13 was with them. He was presumably a brother of Mary's.
1870 MARION CO, SC Page 217 House/Family # 290/ 294--McMILLAN'S Twp TURNER BRADSON 23 M W FARMER 180 344 SC 1846/1847 TURNER MARY M 18 F W KEEPING HOUSE SC 1851/1852 TURNER JULIUS A 1 M W SC 1868/1869 HATCHELL JOHN P 13 M W AT HOME SC 1856/1857
Brodson and family were still in McMillan Township for the 1880 census. He was next door to his father.
1880 MARION CO, SC Page 240 House/Family # 25/ 25 -- McMILLAN Twp TURNER BRADSON W M 33 M FARMER SC SC SC 1846/1847 TURNER MARY W F 28 WF M SC SC SC 1851/1852 TURNER JULIUS W M 11 S S SC SC SC 1868/1869 TURNER KENNY W M 9 S S SC SC SC 1870/1871 TURNER ELLA W F 6 D S SC SC SC 1873/1874 TURNER CHARLES W M 4 S S SC SC SC 1875/1876 TURNER ELLEN W F 1 D S SC SC SC 1878/1879
In 1888, McMillan Township and other parts of Marion and neighboring counties were cut off to form the new County of Florence. This family was then in Florence County from 1888 on.
Thanks to Bill Hatchell for much of the data I have on Brodson and Mary's descendants
Nancy Turner was born ca 1850/51 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). For some reason she wasn't listed with her parents in 1860, but she with them in 1870 and 1880. If she ever married, it was after 1880.
Sarah A. Turner was born ca 1852/53 in Marion Dist, SC, presumably in McMillan Township (now Florence County). She was home with her parents in 1860 and 1870. She married Henry Hudson before 1874. (Thanks to Bill Hatchell for the name of Sarah's husband).
Persons researching this family :
1. William P1 Turner [7503], born 1806/07 in Williamsburg Dist, SC; died 1886 in Effingham, Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC), son of William Turner [14492] and Elizabeth (---) [7502] . He married in 1830/32 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Mary P Carter [7507], born 1806/07 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC); died 1871 in Effingham, Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC), daughter of George Carter [7505].
Children of William P Turner and Mary P Carter were as follows:
+ 3 ii John Nelson2 Turner [7510], born 19 Jun 1835 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married (1) Margaret Julia Hewitt [7541]; (2) Elizabeth Jane Elmore [7399].
4 iii William Elijah2 Turner [7511], born 1837/38 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married aft 1860 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Emily A Munn [7388].
+ 5 iv Frances2 Turner [7512], born 22 Jan 1841 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married Robert M Turner [7580].
6 v Ann2 Turner [7513], born 1842/43 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
7 vi Margaret C2 Turner [7514], born 1843/44 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
+ 8 vii Brodsun Hartwell2 Turner [7515], born 27 Mar 1847 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Mary Melvina Hatchell [7578].
9 viii Nancy2 Turner [7516], born 1850/51 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
+ 10 ix Sarah A2 Turner [7517], born 1852/53 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married Henry Hudson [12115].
3. John Nelson2 Turner [7510] (William P1), born 19 Jun 1835 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married (1) in 1850/60 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Margaret Julia Hewitt [7541], born 1844/45 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC), daughter of John J Hewitt [14443] and Sarah E (---) [14444] ; (2) aft 1880 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Elizabeth Jane Elmore [7399].
Children of John Nelson Turner and Margaret Julia Hewitt were as follows:
12 ii Julia Anzanette3 Turner [7542], born 1861/62 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
13 iii William James3 Turner [7544], born 1866/67 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married aft 1880 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Harriett Ada Dewitt [7380].
14 iv John Presley3 Turner [7545], born 1867/68 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
15 v Eli Warren3 Turner [7546], born 1868/69 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Florence Meggs [7441].
16 vi Walter3 Turner [14467], born 1871/72 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
17 vii Emma3 Turner [14468], born 1872/73 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
18 viii Eva3 Turner [14469], born 1877/78 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
5. Frances2 Turner [7512] (William P1), born 22 Jan 1841 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married in 1850/59 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Robert M Turner [7580], born 1832/33 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
Children of Frances Turner and Robert M Turner were as follows:
20 ii Isham P3 Turner [7583], born 1860/61 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
+ 21 iii Robert Ralston3 Turner [7584], born 1862/63 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Ida Turner [7581].
22 iv Emma3 Turner [7585], born 1867/68 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
23 v Fannie3 Turner [12117], born 1873/74 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married General Conyers [12122].
24 vi Lester Pearce3 Turner [12118], born 1875/76 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Meta Purvis [12123].
25 vii Hester3 Turner [12119], born 1878/79 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married Harvey Mack Welch [12124].
26 viii Susanna O3 Turner [12120], born 1881 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
27 ix William G3 Turner [12121], born 1884 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Lillie Stone [12125].
8. Brodsun Hartwell2 Turner [7515] (William P1), born 27 Mar 1847 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married in 1860/69 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Mary Melvina Hatchell [7578], born 1851/52 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
Children of Brodsun Hartwell Turner and Mary Melvina Hatchell were as follows:
29 ii Kenny Walter Lee3 Turner [12050], born 1870/71 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Nettie Mozelle Carter [12045].
30 iii Ella Jane3 Turner [12051], born 1873/74 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married (1) Forest L Allen [12046]; (2) Charles L Rhame [12047].
31 iv Charlie P3 Turner [12052], born 1875/76 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
32 v Mary Ellen3 Turner [12053], born 1878/79 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
33 vi Mattie Newhomer3 Turner [12054], born 1881 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married Boyd Ham [12048].
34 vii Harriet Carlie "Hattie"3 Turner [12055], born 1883 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married James Harvey Floyd [12110].
35 viii Marvin Bradson3 Turner [12056], born 1885 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Harriet Meggs [12111].
36 ix Olive May3 Turner [12057], born 1889 in Florence Co, SC. She married Blandy Chalmas Haynes [12112].
37 x Talber Franklin3 Turner [12058], born 1892 in Florence Co, SC. He married (1) Lillie Mae Strange [12113]; (2) Allyne Mary Wiggins [12114].
10. Sarah A2 Turner [7517] (William P1), born 1852/53 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). She married in 1870/74 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC) Henry Hudson [12115], born 1853/54 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
Children of Sarah A Turner and Henry Hudson were as follows:
39 ii Robert3 Hudson [14494], born 1875/76 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
40 iii James3 Hudson [14495], born 1877/78 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC).
21. Robert Ralston3 Turner [7584] (Frances2 Turner, William P1), born 1862/63 in Marion Dist, SC (now Florence Co, SC). He married Ida Turner [7581], born 1870/71 in Marion Co, SC (now Florence Co, SC), daughter of Hugh Turner [14457] and Flora (---) [14458] .
Children of Robert Ralston Turner and Ida Turner were as follows:
42 ii Addie4 Turner [13809], born in Florence Co, SC. She married (---) Johnson [13814].
43 iii Sue4 Turner [13810], born in Florence Co, SC. She married (---) Waddell [13815].
44 iv Emma4 Turner [13811], born in Florence Co, SC.
45 v Bertha4 Turner [13812], born in Florence Co, SC. She married (---) Conner [13816].
46 vi Rosa4 Turner [13813], born in Florence Co, SC. She married (---) Allen [13817].
47 vii Eunice4 Turner [13818], born in Florence Co, SC. She married (---) Graham [13819].
48 viii Lloyd4 Turner [13820], born in Florence Co, SC.
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