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John Turner (c1805) and Ruth (---) and Martha (---) of Marion Co, SC; Stewart and Webster Co., GA |
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I (Marty Grant) don't know how I'm related to John Turner, but I think he may be a 1st cousin (many times removed) or perhaps even an uncle. John Turner was born ca 1804/05 per his age on the 1850 census (45). He was probably born in Marion Dist., SC, though his census records only give the state of birth. He is a proven son of John Turner and Juda Hathcock as shown in an 1840 court record. That makes him the third John in this line. John's parents are not listed on the 1810 census for some reason. He does appear to be with them in 1820 in the 10-15 age group (born ca 1804/10). John was not home with his parents in 1830, nor listed on his own as far as I could find. He may have been residing with a sibling or another family. John Turner married Ruth (---) before 1834, presumably in Marion Dist., SC. Ruth was born ca 1805/06 per her age on the 1850 census (44). She was born in SC, perhaps in Marion District. I don't know her maiden name. John Turner was listed on the 1840 census in Marion Dist, SC. He was listed next to Martha Turner (1st cousin), three houses from Daniel Turner (1st cousin? or perhaps a brother?), three houses from his brother Henry Turner, and five houses from his brother Joseph Turner. As best as I can determine, this was within Moody Township, probably in the Temperance Hill area or west of there towards Catfish Creek. In either event, this is probably within the bounds of modern Dillon County in the area where the Town of Latta is now. 1840 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census) 1840 Marion Dist., SC page 140 John Turner Jr. 0001010000000-1100010000000 Slaves=000000-000000 Analysis: 1 Male 30-39 (1800/1810) John Turner (c1805) 1 male 15-19 (1820/1825) Brother? Brother-in-law? Nephew? 1 Female 30-39 (1800/1810) Ruth (---) Turner (c1806) wife 1 female 5-9 (1830/1835) Caroline Turner (1834) daughter 1 female 0-4 (1835/1840) Angeline Turner (1836) daughter 0 Slaves John Turner went to court in 1840 to prove his ethnicity, for he like most of the Turners was of mixed race origin. Here are some of the genealogical details from the case:
John and family moved to Stewart Co., GA in the 1840's. His aunt Sarah Turner Powers and her children had moved to that area around the same time, they may have all went as a group. They are listed on the 1850 census in Stewart. The only other relatives there at this time (as far as I'm aware) was his 1st cousin Charles Powers. They weren't listed near each other though: Boxancle? District, # 467/473 John Turner 45 Farmer, $600 SC; Ruth 44; Catharine (sic) 17; Angeline 13. An Elisa M. Hussey age 18 born GA was just a few houses away. I wonder if she is related to John's aunt Mildred Turner Hussey? She could be a member of that family or of the extended family. She was living with a Dyess family. In 1853 Kinchafoonee County was formed from the eastern part of Stewart County. The Turners seem to have fallen into the new county. That name must have proved unpopular (or unpronounceable) because it was changed to Webster County in 1856. The Turners are listed on the 1860 census in Webster Co., GA. John's 1st cousin Theophilus Turner was also listed there, but not nearby: Southern District, Preston PO, # 470/470 Jno Turner 55 Farmer $2000/535 SC; Rutha 55; Caroline 25 SC; J. N. Bryant 19 NC. Daughter Angeline and her family were just a few houses away. I think that J. N. Bryant is a son of John Bryant (c1805 NC) and Elizabeth (c1836 SC) who were near the Turners in 1850 and 1860. I don't know if their is a relationship between them, but perhaps Elizabeth is related somehow for she was born in SC. She probably isn't John Turner's daughter for all of his children from the 1840 census were still home in 1850. That doesn't preclude some sort of connection. Ruth (---) Turner died sometime in the 1860's, presumably in Webster Co., GA. John Turner married Martha G. (---) before ca 1867 in Webster Co., GA. She was born March 1836 (per 1900 census) in Georgia somewhere. She was apparently widowed from a Mr. Simmons when she married John Turner. They are listed on the 1870 census in Webster Co., GA. John's cousin Theophilus is still there as well, but not listed nearby. Martha is listed as "Mary E." on this record, though all other records list her as Martha. The 1870 census is one of the worst of all time: Preston PO, # 63/70 John Turner, 65 Farmer, $800/874 SC; Mary E. 32 Keeping House GA; Laura 3 GA; Everett 2; Louisa 9/12 born Oct; John H. Simmons 13 at School, AL; Thomas C. 11 GA; James B. 8 GA. They were next door to daughter Angeline Turner Cain and family, and daughter Caroline Turner who was with Angeline. John and Martha are on the 1880 census in Webster. Cousin Theophilus Turner was still there as well, but again not listed nearby. Daughters Angeline and Caroline were just a few houses away: GMD 978, # 121/121 John Turner 75, Farmer SC-SC-NC; Martha G. 42 wife Keeping House GA-GA-GA; Everet 12 son Laborer GA-SC-GA; Laura 13 daughter At Home GA-SC-SC; Louisa 10 daughter At Home GA-SC-GA; Henry J. 8 son At Home; John H. Simmons 23 step Son Farmer GA-VA-GA; Thomas C. 21 step son Laborer; Joseph B. 18 step son, Laborer. John Turner died sometime between 1880 and 1900, presumably in Webster Co., GA. Martha is listed on the 1900 census in Webster: Militia District No 978, # 109/112 Martha Turner, Head, March 1836, 64, widowed, 8 children born 7 living, GA-GA-GA, Farmer; John Simmons, son July 1856 43 single, Farmer; Ludie Turner, daughter Aug 1872, 27. Her step-daughters Angeline and Caroline Turner were two houses away. Martha is still in Webster for the 1910 census: Town District M.D. 978, # 38/38 John H. Simmons, Head 53 single, AL-VA-GA, Farmer; Martha G. Turner, Mother 73 widowed, 8 children born, 7 living. GA-GA-GA. I wasn't able to find Martha on the 1920 census. She may have died by then. |
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Children of John Turner and Ruth (---) and Martha G. (---). John and Ruth had two daughters per the 1840 and 1850 census. They don't seem to have had any other children. John and his second wife Martha had four children per the 1870 and 1880 census. Martha had four children with her first husband Mr. Simmons. |
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First Generation 1. John Turner was born in 1804/1805 in Marion Dist, SC. He died in 1880/1900 in Webster Co, GA. John married Ruth before 1834 in Marion Dist, SC. Ruth was born in 1805/1806 in Marion Dist, SC. She died in 1860/1867 in Webster Co, GA. They had the following children. 2 F i. Caroline Turner was born in Nov 1834 in Marion Dist, SC. She died after 1910 in Webster Co, GA. + 3 F ii. Angeline Turner was born in Jan 1836. She died after 1900. John also married Martha G in 1860/1867 in Webster Co, GA. Martha was born in Mar 1836 in GA. She died after 1910 in Webster Co, GA. They had the following children. 4 F iii. Laura Turner was born in 1866/1867 in Webster Co, GA. She died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. 5 M iv. Everett Turner was born in 1867/1868 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. 6 F v. Louisa Turner was born in Oct 1869 in Webster Co, GA. She died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. 7 M vi. Henry J Turner was born in 1871/1872 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. Second Generation 3. Angeline Turner (John) was born in Jan 1836 in Marion Dist, SC. She died after 1900 in Webster Co, GA. Angeline married Francis M Cain on 6 Dec 1853 in Stewart Co, GA. Francis was born in 1831/1832 in NC. He died in 1870/1880 in Webster Co, GA. They had the following children. 8 M i. John R Cain was born in 1857/1858 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. 9 M ii. Francis L Cain was born in 1860 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1880 in Webster Co, GA. 10 F iii. Pernella V Cain was born in Jun 1866 in Webster Co, GA. She died after 1900 in Webster Co, GA. 11 M iv. William Henry Cain was born in Nov 1868 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1900 in Webster Co, GA. 12 M v. Joseph Walter Cain was born in 1870/1871 in Webster Co, GA. He died after 1900 in Webster Co, GA. 13 F vi. Alla Cain was born in Dec 1880 in Webster Co, GA. She died after 1900 in Webster Co, GA.
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